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La SRCMtm tue: Hommage à l'une de ses victimes
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1) Mon Ami s'appelait Eugenyi (04.08.2011)

Après la "chute" de l'Empire Soviétique (métamorphose et extension vers l'ouest ?), l'avide SRCMtm, prédateur ambitieux, prospectait de nouvelles proies sur ces vastes territoires de l'Est.

Des recrues de Minsk furent invitées à l'ashram d'Augerans au début des années 1990, s'y rendant en car dans un voyage interminable. Elles y furent accueillies très fraternellement. Je liais une forte amitié avec deux Biélorusses de mon âge, et nous gardâmes un contact suivi pendant quelques années.

L'un d'eux s'appelait Eugenyi. Il était plein de vie et de spontanéité, avec une fraîcheur de sentiments remarquable, que nous autres, jeunes de l'ouest, arrogants, désabusés et saturés, n'avions jamais vraiment eu à cause de la destruction de notre âme par l'hydre impérialiste aux mille visages.

Nos vies suivirent leurs chemins. Je revis Eugenyi quelques années plus tard, dans un séminaire SRCMtm.

Il avait changé dramatiquement. Totalement endoctriné, distant, fanatisé, pour ne pas dire obnubilé. Je tentais de ne pas avoir de jugement sur son état effrayant afin de respecter ses processus et son parcours. Ce n'était plus le même personnage et notre amitié avait disparue. Il condamnait mon attitude déjà critique vis-à-vis de la subversion générale dans laquelle s'enlisait la SRCMtm sous la guidance maléfique de l'agent Chari. Il était encadré par un autre personnage plus âgé, possiblement précepteur. Il semblait impliqué dans un programme avancé de lavage de cerveau en vue d'une préparation au préceptorat ou à un quelconque autre poste de cadre dans la pyramide de pouvoir.

L'autre ami Biélorusse avait disparu de la circulation. Je n'avais plus rien à faire avec Eugenyi, un abîme nous séparait.

Les années ont passé. 20 ans.

Par l'intermédiaire des systèmes de réseaux sociaux sur internet, je viens d'être recontacté par un ami commun qui a retrouvé ma trace. La joie des retrouvailles a vite laissé place à une profonde tristesse et à un choc, apprenant le suicide d'Eugenyi il y a quelques années.

Eugenyi, sous la pression endoctrinante au progrès spirituel constamment prônée par Chari, s'était engagé dans une pratique excessive de la méditation qui l'a conduit aux frontières de la santé mentale.

Notre ami m'a écrit: "Eugenyi overdid with daily meditations and came to the state with hallucinations etc - to the state that modern psychiatry treats as it is own ground - when his inbalances became evident he was also became rejected by the local SM community in Minsk (they did want to see him at the meditations as a grave reminder of "screwed by practice" examples). This is a very sad story.
Eugeniy very often referred to some old letters and talks with you. I really wanted that time to talk to you. There are in fact not many people that time left who knew SM and Eugeniy. Well this happened about 4 or 5 years ago."

Dans un autre courriel, il précise: "What really put him to desperation is that he was rejected by all fellow abhiasies who were instructed if I remember correctly not to have contacts with E and to forbid him to visit the meditations and cleanings."

Ce message est un hommage à la mémoire d'Eugenyi. Ils ont pillé son âme, puis ils l'ont détruit, le poussant au désespoir en lui tournant le dos au moment où il avait le plus besoin d'humanité.

Les responsables ? La pression psychologique endoctrinante criminelle qu'est "l'enseignement" de Chari, cette subversion complète de l'enseignement spirituel de Babuji. Le "maître" Chari qui pollue les âmes de sa propre folie. Les autres "frères" et "sœurs", aveugles, soumis, égoïstes et inhumains.



2) Réflexions autour d'un suicide (13.08.2011)

J'ai obtenu plus de détails sur le contexte du suicide d'Eugenyi auprès d'un ami commun qui l'a rencontré quelques jours avant le drame.
Certains points sont factuels. D'autres sont hypothétiques.

Synthèse des faits tels qu'ils m'ont été rapportés:
  1. Eugenyi s'adonnait de manière excessive et passionnée à la pratique de la méditation - plusieurs heures par jour. C'était donc un bon abhyasi selon les standards de Chari tels qu'ils transparaissent de ses discours, puisqu'Eugenyi prenait en compte la pression à l'urgence d'évoluer spirituellement et la pression à pratiquer assidument et sérieusement telles que distillées par l'agent Chari dans ses discours manipulatoires.
  2. Environ 4 ans avant son suicide, Eugenyi avait commencé à perdre pied avec la réalité. Le phénomène s'était amplifié pour se manifester par des hallucinations diront les uns, par la capacité à exister consciemment dans le monde astral et à y avoir toute sorte d'expériences à volonté rapportait Eugenyi. Eugenyi qui avait toujours eu la faculté d'autoanalyse, d'autocritique, et d'autodérision, n'était plus capable de prendre du recul par rapport à ses expériences mentales, même sous l'impulsion d'une source extérieure (amis et proches).
  3. Eugenyi a été rejeté par la communauté d'abhyasis de la SRCMtm (Minsk, Belarus) lorsque son état psychiatrique a été avéré. Il semble que ce rejet était le fait de directives provenant des étages supérieurs de la pyramide de contrôle.
  4. C'est ce rejet par une communauté qu'il avait côtoyée pendant 15 ans (soit un peu moins de la moitié de sa vie), qui était devenue tout pour lui, qui était associée au sens de sa vie comme moyen pour l'atteindre, qui l'a plongé dans une profonde dépression aboutissant à cet acte d'autodestruction. Il faut rappeler combien (i) la pratique suivie à la SRCMtm fragilise l'individu en le rendant hyper-sensible, (ii) l'endoctrinement mental explicite et implicite subi à la SRCMtm abolit l'intelligence discriminative de l'individu, et (iii) l'absolutisme (donc l'excès) transpire de chaque composante de la SRCMtm sous l'influence mégalomaniaque de son président.
  5. La méthode qu'Eugenyi a employé pour se donner la mort ne lui laissait aucune chance de s'en sortir. Ce n'était donc pas un appel à l'aide (tentative de suicide ratée, c'est-à-dire aboutissant à un suicide effectif en dépit d'une volonté de ne pas réellement se donner la mort) mais la manifestation de son désarroi absolu (saut de son appartement situé au 10è étage).

Spéculations explorées au cours de discussions:
  1. Certains ont prétendu qu'Eugenyi était initialement psychologiquement fragile et que la pratique de la méditation sur un terrain psychologique prédisposé avait déclenché la crise, de la même manière que la consommation de cannabis est connue pour déclencher la schizophrénie chez les adolescents prédisposés. Si cette hypothèse était vraie, il ne se serait pas écoulé 10 ans (approximativement) avant que les expériences spirituelles d'Eugenyi ne se transforment en hallucinations ou phénomènes apparentés. De tels effets seraient apparus plus rapidement, après seulement quelques mois de pratique, tout comme la décompensation psychotique se produit rapidement après la prise de cannabis chez un adolescent prédisposé à la schizophrénie, et non 10 ans après. Avec une telle latence, la pratique suivie/subie par Eugenyi ne peut avoir été un déclencheur. C'était donc probablement plutôt une cause.
  2. Une hypothèse alternative est que la pratique de la méditation sans guidance spirituelle appropriée (c'est-à-dire sous la conduite d'un incapable spirituel comme Chari ou ses sous-fifres décérébrés) a provoqué un chaos mental chez l'abhyasi, qui s'est amplifié sans possibilité de correction (absence de guide) sous l'effet de l'intensité de la pratique. Il est indéniable qu'avec un guide spirituel approprié, ou à tout le moins s'occupant correctement et responsablement de ses abhyasis, un individu développant ce type d'égarement aurait été reconduit dans la voie du Soi. L'échec de la SRCMtm sur cet individu était évidemment une mauvaise publicité pour une organisation prédatrice, expansionniste, et cancéreuse, mais aussi une source potentielle de doute dans les rangs de ses adeptes, donc de fragilisation interne. Pour ces deux raisons stratégiques, les meneurs de la secte se devaient de faire disparaître la source de rappel à la réalité comme ils l'ont systématiquement fait avec toute source de réflexion, de dissidence, ou tout simplement de vérité. Le rejet d'Eugenyi par la secte est directement responsable de la crise qui s'en est suivie.
  3. La réaction excessive de l'abhyasi révèle la puissance de l'emprise mentale de la secte sur l'individu: la secte est tout, l'individu endoctriné qui est rejeté par la secte n'est plus rien. Le désespoir qui en découle le conduit à préférer s'autodétruire au lieu de chercher à reconstruire sa vie pour poursuivre sa quête. Même cette possibilité n'existe plus. L'endoctrinement mental imprimé sur l'individu par la Sri Rahhh-javapala Chari Mi-Sion tm est donc d'une efficacité redoutable et, à présent on peut le dire, potentiellement mortelle.

Utile ou non pour Eugenyi ?
Utile ou non pour ceux qui s'y adonnent ?
Joignez le futile à l'agréable: prenez Eugenyi avec vous dans vos prières.

Cricri



3) Document d'archive (17.08.2011)

En 1991, Eugenyi avait tenu à m'offrir quelque chose de personnel pour que je me souvienne de lui. Il n'avait que cette photo de lui enfant, que j'ai retrouvé dans mes archives. C'était un présent très touchant qui révélait cette fraîcheur d'âme dont j'ai parlé plus haut.


207 commentaires:

  1. Je réponds ci-dessous à 2 messages publiés sous une autre section de ce blog, mais en rapport avec le contenu de cette section.

    "Anonyme Anonyme a dit...

    Sir,
    It was not due to meditation the abyasi got into hallucination or so. It is the mental depression or dis-order can only lead to such horrible experiences.In SRCM the meditation is very simple and not complicated.So many people are getting Hallucination and committing suicides with out practicing meditation.Hallucination or insanity develops in a person due to his own psychological problems and not due to spirituality.

    6 août 2011 14:38"

    Dear Anonymous, thanks for your message.

    I do not fully agree with your logics, although I agree with the fact that Sahaj Marg's meditation should be harmless when practiced properly and under the spiritual guidance of someone of genuine spiritual abilities.

    You will surely agree that it is not the case under Chari's guidance, since: (i) Chari is not a genuine spiritual master but a crook, (ii) endoctrination, megalomania and excess have replaced a spiritual teaching and driven to the improper use of the technique - both in prefects and abhyasis.

    That many non-abhyasis have hallucinations, are depressed, and commit suicide, is not a logical proof that the improper guidance in SRCMtm can never be the cause of hallucinations, depression and suicide in SRCMtm abhyasis.

    With the current suicide case, I need to state that SRCMtm is a dangerous cult which has now proven to be murderous.



    "Anonyme Anonyme a dit...

    Sir,

    I honestly regret for the harm done to the abyasi and to his family. If the spiritual master is genuine ,definitely the abyasi will be taken care of otherwise the abyasi has to face such horrible experiences. The selection of the spiritual master is most important in spirituality. Blind belief will lead an aspirant to the Chaos and not to Reality.

    11 août 2011 08:08"


    Dear Anonymous, many thanks for your loving message.

    I fully agree with you that improper spiritual guidance may create chaos in the abhyasi instead of bringing him to reality, balance, and bliss.

    All this is very sad and it is even sadder to think that so many people are potentially under the threat of this insane organisation or could fall tomorrow. All in the name of God, as always.

    Babuji has clearly stated that it is better not to have a spiritual master at all than to have a wrong one.

    He has also categorized disciples, which Chari loves to refer to in order to condamn his abhyasis as bad.

    However, Chari always omit to refer to the chapter where Babuji categorizes spiritual masters - some of them from bad to ugly.

    I wonder which category Babuji would have attributed to Chari...

    Babuji said that his teaching would not be understood before millenia have passed. While stating this, he was not sending a message to the future generations, he was speaking directly to his own disciples, including Chari, saying them implicitly that there was not a chance that they could ever understand anything. And now we find them playing the masters !

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  2. Mr.Cri Cri,

    I am happy you do agree with me that it is not the fault of an abyasi but the fake master who is responsible for the spiritual guidance and health of the abyasi.

    In the case of Chariji, he was not made a spiritual successor to Babuji.Chariji himself declared that he is the spiritual representative to Babuji and started marketing the concept of Babuji. Chariji is a spiritual business merchant and not spiritual Savior or master.

    This above concept of Chariji is misunderstood by most of the Foreign and Indian Abyasis and falling a prey in his trap. Babuji was not conducting any marriages nor running any Kindergarten( like Omega school)like Chariji. Babuji's books was accessible to every abyasi and also were cheap in price. Chariji claims ten thousand Rupees per book and donations 200 and 300 Euros. Babuji was collecting very meager amount as donation for spiritual functions and he was issuing receipts for the same.

    Babuji was taking personal care on the physical health of an abyasi , let alone spiritual.

    With out testing the spiritual master if any aspirant enters in the field of spirituality then he has to face serious consequences.Therefore, it is paramount importance of an aspirant in the selection of a spiritual master for his own liberation.Any type of Yoga is very dangerous if the master is fake.

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  3. Dear Anonymous,

    Thanks for recalling us how Babuji was behaving. This will show those who had not the chance to meet him a way to understand how far subversion has been implemented in SRCMtm and the Sahaj Marg teaching.

    You have also raised one of the most important facts maybe.

    Babuji was not considering himself as a master, but as a servant, of his master, of humankind, and of the ultimate.

    Chari has twisted this very essentials by asking others to serve - the 3 Ms (master, mission, method). It includes being served for supporting his megalomaniac effort to propagate his mental disease as far as possible.

    This is why it is finished for them, and only a question of time before it becomes obvious to all through more and more excesses.

    Please, continue bringing us stories about Babuji's time, you are all still able to leave this memory to those who come after. If not this will all be lost and Chari and his lies will only remain, confusing and trapping people.

    Dr. Cricri

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  4. Dr.Cri Cri,

    I am enormously encouraged by your support to Babuji and his Mission.As you know that Babuji made Chariji as a president only during 1974 but not as a spiritual successor to him. After Babuji,s demise Chariji was made overall in charge of the mission by some personalities of SRCM not knowing his original nature. That was the mistake done by the personalities.
    But Babuji was careful.
    After some time, Chariji conveniently sent away those personalities from SRCM(Cal) and established his own Kingdom (SRCM-CAL). Now he is the Monarch of SRCM(Cal) and ruling the roost. He has wonderful tactics to manage and get favor/personal service from the abyasis. I tell you how he had become the living master. At first with the help of Senior Preceptors/Abyasis he occupied the position as a living master. After wards he started gathering new abyasis and convincing them that he is the living master through the support of old abyasis/ Preceptors.
    Babuji used to credit each and every achievement to Lalaji with out least selfishness. Chariji took Babuji's life-style as his(Chariji)
    magic-wand and started manipulating the abyasis for his personal gain.
    The poor ayasis developed except Superstition than nothing in the company of Chariji.
    Babuji gave power to Chariji but it was misused by Chariji. Babuji was kind towards Chariji and that was the mistake. Babuji was one with Divine and distributed the divine power whoever approached him with devotion and craving.

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  5. Dear Sir,

    Many thanks for bringing your testimony and additional light to all of us looking for the truth.

    You should write more details about how Babuji was, behaved with abhyasis, what he taught, how he lived, and of course how this tragic affair with Chari started and developped. This might be for the common good of all and I offer you and others willing to move in that direction the space of this blog for spreading the truth.

    I have no doubt that Chari was infused with power, but since people have no reference to what god is but religious stories, they do not know the difference between power and spirituality.

    Spiritual conditions developping under Chari's guidance are often heavy as a result of the application of power. This should be a proof for abhyasis that what they are undergoing is not spiritual enlightenment and expansion, but domination and self destruction. When one feels a pressure at his solar plexus, it is a sure sign that he has fallen a prey to some external power of gross nature.

    I remember that once, Chari told us about his fear, while giving his first sitting after Babuji's death, that no transmission would ever occur. With such a confession, wasn't he acknowledging (i) his lack of faith in his master and (ii) his illegitimacy at the new position he occupied ?

    If Chari is not the master, who is ? Who can help people looking for the divine ?

    Dr. Cricri

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  6. Dr.CriCri,

    I applaud your understanding of Babuji's Divine nature and that of Chariji's Evil nature. As far as my knowledge goes ,Chariji has lost the power of transmitting the Ultimate Force or Pranahuti what Babuji had given him. Absolutely, there is no Divine Transmission is with Chariji. What he and his preceptors are transmitting is their own grossness to the abyasis.
    Abyasis who are innocent develop utter obedience to Chariji and treat him as God or Saint.
    Dr.K.C.Varadhachari was fit for Babuji's Spiritual-Representative but he left his mortal-frame before Babuji. Of course Saint Kasturi is there for protecting Babuji's mission. She is a simple lady and attained the highest condition of Reality or'Bhuma" or Centre by the grace of Babuji.She is doing enormous spiritual service to the humanity silently and saliently. She left Chariji during 1995.

    I do not know when the Nature is going to take an appropriate action on Chariji for his sins, God(Divine) alone knows.Chariji can suppress and cover his flaws for the time being but he has to face the terrible consequences that which is in store, kept by the nature.

    Babuji was a nature's agent for transforming the entire humanity. Babuji used Maha-Kal Chakra for the same. It is silently working with out the knowledge of any one.

    Like Chariji there are so many fake masters are there in India.They accumulate huge money from their followers and keep them as their slaves.

    I have tried to awaken a few abyasis about their slavery and tyranny towards their living master but certain abyasis only could understand and left him but most of them could not leave him due moral fear and false status given to them by Chariji.

    We can not change these blind and sentimental followers. Time only will teach them a lesson and bring a change in them. We have to wait and see till then.

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  7. Dear K.r.s.rajan,

    Thanks for your comment.

    I sometimes wonder why Babuji did give Chari some position in the mission.

    Was he not able to foresee what would happen ? Was he willing to give Chari a chance to make a choice ? Or was he spiritually blinded by another power intending to destroy his teaching ?

    Of course, Chari's believers will claim that I do not explore the hypothesis that Chari is the spiritual representative of Babuji. I already did and concluded he could not be. Like Chari, I think that one knows a tree to its fruits.

    My best guess - but this is quite speculative - is that Chari is deeply associated with that power which has taken command over the west. His own people claim that he is a westerner due to his education, and he looks and behaves more like a westerner than an Indian.

    Maybe this seduced Babuji, who believed he could find in Chari the support he needed to spread his teaching beyond India ? This desire probably blinded him, or got him caught into the net of evil until he eventually came to die (or be killed).

    I have been trying to think outside the box for many years in order to understand why all humanity is actively forced into the direction of globalism. I came to speculate that, possibly, a human group of unknown origin influences human evolution in a way allowing them to keep control over the horde. I used to think jews to be this group, but I realized this hypothesis was inconsistent when gathering more pieces of the puzzle.

    My conviction today is that nothing from outer space - as they prepare us to accept - is at work or menacing. It is something from the past, from which we diverged hundreds of thousand years ago, which is back to its supreme position.

    Something to which these spiritual secrets concerning consciousness engineering belong. They would never leave it in human hands, unless as control devices such as religion.

    Chari, either knowingly or most probably unknowingly, through subtle manipulation of his belief system, came to play the major role in destroying a lineage at the spiritual level.

    Nature will not take any revenge as you expect or whish, for history is played according to the skills of the players - that's the universal rule.

    It is only up to you guys to become clever and subtle actors, knowing that you have to deal with cunning people able of the dirtiest actions for reaching their aim.

    Dr. Cricri

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  8. Dr.CriCri,

    Babuji was not Divine itself to
    create, protect and destroy the world for ever. He was only a special personality appointed by the nature to transform the material civilization into spiritual one. He used Maha-Kal Chakra as said already for the entire transformation of the world and passed away.
    Chariji was good when Babuji was alive but after Babuji he has changed into evil. It is all one's own previous 'Samskaras' that make them to be either a Saint or a sinner.
    Now the entire world is in a crisis due to solid materialism. This material Civilization has to change giving place to Spiritual Civilization. For this purpose Nature works through several Human Agencies in the world and Babuji Maharaj was also one such Agent.That's all.

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  9. Dr.CriCri,
    Babuji wanted to spread his
    Spritual-message to all humanity. His mission was to Liberate the Human beings from their bondage of life, death, re-birth and misery. He never aspired for any wealth, social-status, position or name and fame.What Lalaji was doing the same he was adopting.Babuji was leading a very simple life and possessing high spiritual enlightenment.

    Let us forget Chari and his fake- mission and follow what Rev.Babuji said.

    How Babuji knows that Chariji or anybody in the mission will do harm to abyasis and their families. Here one Nandaji had committed adultery and was taken to judicial custody by police men.He was more popular than Chariji in the world. Did Swami Vivekananda know about it ? Like wise Babuj was also helping those who were approaching him for spiritual guidance. You can believe true saints but not ordinary
    human beings like Chariji, in Spiritual matters.Blind belief is most dangerous.

    we have to struggle for our Liberation or Self-realization and saints like Babuji can give right type of guidance only and they can not shoulder any body up to their home-land. If that is the case Babuji or Budda would have already Liberated the entire humanity from their bondage of life.
    Even if you become a Saint then also you too will do the same what Babuji or Jesus had done. Every body is subjected to the phenomenon of Nature.

    You have first joined in Buddism and quit it and again joined in SRCM(Cal)and after some time you quit that too and you are now a free soul. Now you can start yourself independently and reach your Home-Land with out any body's guidance and support. Why do you develop grudge for Chari or any one and waste your energy and valuable time.If Chariji dies, a hundred Charijis will emerge. Can you destroy them all ? Therefore , we shall we not worry about such fake Saints. They are there in every Religion and mission.

    Let us struggle for our Salvation
    and solve our problem of life. Meditation will increase the depression if the person has already have some physic problem. Such persons should be examined in the initial stage and advice them not do any kind of meditation. Chari has neglected that. Bur Babuji was not doing like Chariji. He used to examine the aspirant before initiating in his mission. When Chariji himself is under going a kind of hallucination and egoism ,how can he put any abyasi in the right track. It is highly impossible.

    Behenji is a real Saint and she can transform any human being from human to divine. Like Chariji she does not claim herself as the spiritual-successor of Babuji.

    If you approach her you will definitely get spiritual benefit.

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  10. Dear Anonymous 1,

    Thank you for your inputs in the discussion.

    Materialism is not worst than spiritualissm. Excess, inbalance, and blindness causes individual and collective prejudice.

    Materialism was used to create subversion of the society, which turned people into collective madness all around the world.

    If you take a closer look, you will see that what is wrong is this insanity, while matter is useful and as precious as a means for reaching any purpose - which could be to follow a spiritual life. But not everyone has inclination for this, it will all depend on one's own biology.

    Who has structured the world in the wrong way so that humankind gets trapped in its own perversity ? Materialism could have been a way to heaven without this foreign influence.

    We do not know how the future will turn to be. For sure, as the system goes deeper and deeper into a crisis, those in power will seek to reinforce their control. The police state that has been secretely implemented in Europe and in the USA is ready to use coercition on the population (fully operational FEMA camps for jailing up to 6 million people in the USA, special clauses in the annex of the EU constitution allowing to shoot civilians in case of street riots - for example).

    Every human being is aspiring to a better world, and many are aspiring for spirituality. Those controlling the game have understood that they can take advantage of this natural inclination and turned their talents to control people through spiritually-related belief systems. Such subverted spiritual systems, which might have been initially able to improve human condition and free the souls, have now become jails. It is the case with SRCMtm after Chari's intervention.

    Any situation with power will need to expand up to its full potential before a new cycle starts. We need to get ready for durable chaos.




    Dear Anonymous 2,

    Thank you for clarifying with additional explanations.

    In your previous message, you mentionned KC Varadachari as a possible spiritual representative of Babuji. Unfortunately, he died at the right moment for freeing the way to agent Chari. How surprising that all potential bars to Chari's success were methodically removed one after the other.

    You forgot to mention that Varadachari's son KC Narayana has taken on the burden to guide people too after he left Chari alone with his madness. I have met loving souls around him, and the contrast was significant with the disturbed egotic individuals around Chari. However, subversion is also creeping in there and I pray that they manage keeping it in check.

    Please, do not misunderstand my position with Chari. Although I do not feel love towards him as Kasturi still does, I am not hateful. I had decided to leave all this crap aside and focus on more constructive matters, but see how I am called back to duty, through the most improbable ways, and how you contribute fuelling the process.

    Kasturi is among the sweetest persons I have ever met. She is able to teach love and devotion without words and methods, by simply being. I have no concepts to understand what she is or if she is how you describe her. All I know is that she would not appreciate that anyone say she is better than anyone else in a way or another. She deeply loves her master Babuji and this fulfills her heart and her life completely.

    I need only pray that god shows me the path to himself from within, protect me from evil, and do not tempt me. But the way is a tough struggle.

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  11. Dear CriCri,

    I am feeling great happiness when I read your mail. You have understood Babuji and Behenji in a right manner. Chariji due to his greediness for material pleasures has lost his own spiritual treasure bestowed by Babuji. That is called in Sanskrit 'One,s own Prarabdha Karma,( ie.previous lives bad deeds). Nature can not liberate such people so easily with out punishing them.

    May Babuji Maharaj bless you and your family members with material and spiritual prosperity.

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  12. There is not doubt that you belong to different rival political groups and are dragging spirituality for your filthy mud-slinging. Does it matter if it is Chari or KC Naraiana or whoever. One can go where you feel good! If smaller groups can't become like the bigger group they retort to such back-stabbing. What a shame!

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  13. Anonymous,

    because I have met people from other groups in my quest for the truth does not imply that I belong to any rival political group. You should rather remember that I was endoctrinated in Chari's group and brainwashed there in a pityfull condition for many years. That I could open my eyes and get freed was god's grace.

    Spirituality is not a registered mark, it does not belong to anyone.

    Either you are from Chari's gang and you have shown once more how Chari's mental engineering system can bring normal people to such a fanatic condition.

    Or you belong to Chari's rivals and you want us to think that Chari's people are all mother fuckers. Undoubtedly some of them are. Hopefully most of them are not.

    The fact that Chari or any one else drives the SRCM machine is not the point. The point is about the driver's skills and the collateral damages occurring to others on his path. Obviously some skills are missing now.

    There is no shame in doing what we do, which is exposing the truth. On the contrary, this is a glorious activity, which will continue - if not through me, through someone else.

    And believe it or not, this someone else will emerge from your own organization again and again and again.

    All this is beyond individuals, and it is driven from above.

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  14. Dr.CriCri,

    So far I am concerned Dr.K.C.Narayana is running his own ISRC silently with out harming any one but SRCM(Cal) is a very dangerous cult and it is playing with the lives of innocent abaysis for its selfish end. That is not good.

    Babuji had spread his mission to Liberate the suffering humanity from their bondage of life and death and not for marketing his concept by any one. In every mission there are Good and bad people exist. The abyasi has to test the Guru before surrendering to him otherwise the result of the Sadhana of the abyasi will be fruitless and void.
    k.r.s.

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  15. Dear K.r.s.,

    It is correct that Narayana, as well as other people from other groups related to Babuji, do not look for revenge or to intend wrong deeds to Chari and his SRCMtm. This would be unspiritual and totally foreign to the teaching they follow.

    They have left Chari, not because they had an ego crisis like Chari's abhyasis believe, but because they were convinced that Chari was destroying the spirit of the mission - which is now obvious.

    They are all trying their best to help people spiritually. I do not think that they want their group to become big, and that they have some kind of jealousy because Chari succeeded attracting thousands. A previous message (Anonymous from the 19th of august 2011) suggested that it could be the reason why we are blogging ("If smaller groups can't become like the bigger group they retort to such back-stabbing. What a shame!"). It is not, the reason is to help and testify. People need to know that there are other possibilities outside Chari's star system cult, that they will rebuild their lives and start their quest again.

    I need to apologize for hurting people's feeling with my action through the blogs and causing such frustration as found in Anonymous. Obviously, Anonymous is sincere and devoted, and he feels that what we do is incorrect. But it seems from what he has written that he does not understand what is going on in the SRCMtm, what the real history is, and why it has been hidden.

    The truth will always seek to make its way through the layers of lies until it gets to be known.

    Dear K.r.s., you mentionned that Babuji wanted his mission to liberate human beings. He was serving for improving the human condition spiritually.

    Chari's SRCM does not seem to liberate people, but to enslave the masses.

    I have made the analysis that Babuji's system was twisted on purpose. It is possible that SRCMtm is a serious candidate as tomorrow's 5th reich mass religion.

    Yes, we should test the master first. But how can this be done practically? I could never understand.

    As a new comer to any teaching, don't you first need to know more, before making deeper tests and take a decision? In a mental trap like Chari's SRCM, the problem is that during this discovering period, you also start to be endoctrinated. And when you know enough, you are convinced, therefore unwilling to test, therefore trapped for further brainwashing. It is only after years, if you are lucky and truthfull to yourself, that you come to the ultimate point where you need to make the terrible jump into the void: put Chari to trial.

    That's what I did and I need to say that he failed completely. The emails I had with him are published on this blog under the section "Analyses".

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  16. Dr.CriCri,

    As you said correctly except Chariji , all the other factions or group of SRCM(Babuji)are trying to help the abyasis to gain at least the knowledge of Shahaj Marg of Babuji, though they have some selfish motive behind.

    We are least worried about Chariji's Goal to acquire power,
    wealth and name etc., Let him enjoy all those material pleasures till his 100 years of life. But where we are not happy with him ?. Exploiting the innocent abyasis and making their lives utter miserable.

    As you rightly said in your last message, no new comer in to spirituality( SRCM(Cal)would directly meet the master and judge. They come mostly by the advice of their kith and kin. First they put trust in Chariji as spiritual master and later on they become pawns in the hands of Chariji. Some intelligent people like you after studying Chariji thoroughly quit the mission. This is not the case with every one. So far I know all most all the followers of Chariji develop tyranny and superstition, instead of love and devotion for the master( Chariji).

    Babuji was not at all infusing fear in the abyasis. He used to give full liberty to the abyasis. They can stay with him or leave him if they think that he is not suitable Master or guide to them.

    Testing the spiritual master of course is a very difficult thing for the new abyasi. We were feeling calmness and bliss in the presence of Babuji Maharaj.He used to talk about spirituality and Realization only. No money and politics was with him.Always we used to discuss or think about liberation or Realisation only. But now it is very difficult to find out a True Spiritual Master.There may be a lot of Genuine Masters in the world. But I had chosen Babuji as my Spiritual Guide for my Self-Realization. I am still happy with Babuji and his guidance.

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  17. Dear Anonymous,

    You wrote: "all the other factions or group of SRCM(Babuji)are trying to help the abyasis to gain at least the knowledge of Shahaj Marg of Babuji, though they have some selfish motive behind."

    I had perceive unclear motives sometimes and I tend to agree with your statement. I also know that I have been used and I did not appreciate this attitude very much - but what was mine: not always very friendly as a reaction.

    I would have loved to meet Babuji when he was alive. Things would have been very different for me because my aspiration would have been fulfilled. Maybe you can share your email for more personnal discussion at cricri.srcmtm@gmail.com ?

    What do you think about Chari's inability to intercommunicate with Babuji, while in the same time he claims to drive the mission according to the orders he receives from him, but needs to use psychics as devices for getting messages from above ?

    Are these messages the imaginary of the psychic, the channelling of a tricky spirit, manipulation of Chari by those who infiltrated the inner circle, or genuine communications with Babuji ?

    My reasons to doubt the last possibility is the style of the messages. I may be wrong, but it does not look like Babuji's style when we compare with his writtings. Furthermore, the content is emotionnal most of the time: how weird :-) And finally, Chari is using these messages as a tool of power, endoctrination, and significant incomes...

    All this is very spiritual.

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  18. Dear CriCri,

    1) I would have loved to meet Babuji when he was alive. Things would have been very different for me because my aspiration ndawould have been fulfilled. Maybe you can share your email for more personnal discussion at cricri.srcmtm@gmail.com ?

    Yes, definitely you would have achieved your spiritual aspirations had you been with Babuji Maharaj physically.
    Even now you can receive his grace if you pray him with full heart. I shall discuss with you personally at your ID.

    2) What do you think about Chari's inability to intercommunicate with Babuji, while in the same time he claims to drive the mission according to the orders he receives from him, but needs to use psychics as devices for getting messages from above ?
    Inter communication with the subtle souls like Babuji or any other saint could be done by meditating on certain point in the
    heart region like meditating on A, B points . This secret was revealed by Babuji in his books. This is not an extraordinary achievement in spirituality what Babuji said.
    But in the case of Chariji , he is bluffing and fooling around the people who blindly believe him as supreme. This is a trade secret of Chariji to sell his books and control the abyasis for his petty popularity and personal services. That’s all.
    Even I can also claim that I am in Bhooma or near to Center and that I am communicating with subtle souls like Swami Vivekananda, Ramakrishna Parama Hamsa, Budda, Jesus and Babuji, But I do not want to cheat my own self for my selfish end.
    How long we can be fraud and exploit others with our low tricks, it is for some time only. The followers can get cheated for ever but nature and Divine will not keep quiet ,IT will punish the culprit one day or the other. No body can escape from the eyes of Nature.
    Saints like Swmi Yogananda used to inter communicate with his spiritual master Sri Yukteswar Giri. But that was purely spiritual and no amount of treachery in it. Once I had the Dharsan or vision of Lalaji and he blessed me a son.

    3) Are these messages the imaginary of the psychic, the channelling of a tricky spirit, manipulation of Chari by those who infiltrated the inner circle, or genuine communications with Babuji ?
    As I said above, souls do exist in their subtle forms as our selves exist in deep sleep or un-conscious state. Chariji uses Auto suggestion and believes his own suggestions as real. In a way he hypnotizes himself and his followers as well. Except Behenji none in SRCM could inter communicate with Babuji or Lalaji since she is a saint but she never expressed openly that she is communicating with Babuji or with any saint for that matter.

    4) My reasons to doubt the last possibility is the style of the messages. I may be wrong, but it does not look like Babuji's style when we compare with his writtings. Furthermore, the content is emotionnal most of the time: how weird :-) And finally, Chari is using these messages as a tool of power, endoctrination, and significant incomes.

    We can not compare Chariji to Babuji. Babuji had the Inter Communications with Saints in the subtle world was for the sake of human enlightenment and it was Divine will and the Nature’s plan. What Chariji has either illusion, delusion or Hallucinations and definitely not the Divine interaction.
    Most of the Fake Saints market spirituality for wealth, power, control and prominence in the world. Only a few true saints work for the spiritual upliftment of humanity. Babuji is one among them.

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  19. Thanks for your additional comments.

    You are most welcome to use the email address I provided in my previous message, please feel free.

    I am not clearly understanding what you meant in "Chariji uses Auto suggestion and believes his own suggestions as real.", in the discussion context.

    It seems that the messages from Babuji (the bible of Sahaj Marg, as coined by Chari) are received by a psychic, not by Chari himself.

    It seems that Babuji left us prematurely (there are quite numerous vague reports of murder suspiscion). I read somewhere, from a retranscription of discussions with abhyasis, that he said he would live until something like 2005 or 2007 (I do not remember exactly though, but this was in the 2000s).

    Can this explain why Babuji did not leave a clearly designated successor?

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  20. Dr.CriCri,

    Auto suggestion means Inner Voice. Babuji said in one of his books that certain people develop false inner voice and think it to be the divine communications. Whispers from the Brighter world is the out come of such false inner voice only and not real Inter communication with subtle souls.
    Even Lalaji did not leave any clearly designated successor after him. He had brought Babuji by his penance from Bhuma or Center for accomplishing the Nature's task. If you take for instance great personalities like Lord Krishna, Rama, Budda, Jesus and Vivekananda they also did not leave any spiritual successors to them. The reason is that the Nature alone can appoint any Spiritual personality or Representative and no human being has the power to do it. That is the phenomenon of Nature what Babuji said.

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  21. Many thanks for your sound answer.

    I may be wrong but it seems that the spiritual lineage we benefit today through Babuji has been there from immemorial times.

    From what I know, it was brought to us through sufism, via a soft schism from there to hinduism with Lalaji and Babuji.

    Many followers of Babuji prefer to erase this historical connexion to the mystics of Islam. In Chari's movement for instance, it is claimed that Lalaji just popped out from above to bring back to humanity something forgotten long ago. However, the historical truth is that Lalaji had a sufi master who trained him in the art of transmission and gave him almost the same techniques as practiced today under the sahaj marg teaching. In other branches of sahaj marg, it is claimed that Babuji went much further in the spiritual realm than ever in human kind's recent history, and that he opened new gates not possible to reach before. Consequently, Babuji would be the beginning of a new lineage.

    What I know for sure is that without Lalaji there would have been no Babuji, and without Lalaji's sufi master, there would have been no Sahaj Marg. Being conscious of that chain of masters may help better understand the nature of spirituality and the importance of continuing a living chain. Without it, the risk is significant that a living spiritual teaching fossilises into another religion.

    It is not clear how the great personnalities you cited emerged from their time, if they received training and belonged to any school of secrets. In the case of Jesus at least, it has been greatly debated (the "missing years"). The religious myth remains of course always the same BS everywhere, since ignorance and magic is part of the mass control.

    From a higher view point, the spiritual core seems to adjust any form suitable to social and cultural constraints. When this form is kept of minimal importance, as it was the case during Babuji's time (thanks to the living master), we are close to spirituality. But when it becomes predominant (thanks to false masters or to the absence of a living master), spirituality seems to rapidly vanish out of sight, hidden by mental and physical forms.

    Also, there is some continuity throughout history. Spiritual bubles (personnalities) pop up here and there without apparent connexions, but there may be more connexions than we know or believe.

    Humanity is being engineered at many levels - from biology to spirituality. By whom ?

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  22. Dear CriCri,

    As you said from sufi master Huzur MahLalaj to Lalaji Maharaj to Babuji Maharaj the age old method of RajaYoga and the Technic of Transmitting the Ultimate force had started. Since the Sufi saints started utilizing the Divine force for materialistic purpose avoiding spirituality altogether the link was cut by Babuji Maharaj. Forget about Chariji and his blind followers because to save his skin he says like a parrot what Babuji had already said.

    Babuji wrote in one of his books" Great men are not accidentally born, when time needs, most they come do their job and go, such is the phenomenon of Nature ". Therefore it is vividly clear that the great personalities born when there is a dire spiritual need in the world. Lord Krishna said in his Bagavat Geeta " Sambavami Yuge, Yuge" Lord Krishna used "Sudharsan Chakra" at that time to bring ' 'Kurushetra war' for establishing " Dharma". Now Babuji used " Maha-Kal Chakra" for establishing "Dharma" in the world. If you study Babuji's ' My Vision' you can understand that how the transformation of the world will be established can be understood.

    'By whom' means by whoever that the Divine ordains will be carried on the work of Nature. It is all Divine Dynamics that is going on in